Thanks for getting back to me and thanks for telling me what a flat is. Not what I was thinking it was thats for for sure and about your idea of what is Google Standard, well... maybe it was standard 7 or more years ago but certainly is not standard today. Might want to have a look at what they have developed this into because it is far less intrusive than the bloated Captcha you are using. The statistics showed the one you are using was a key metric that was proven to drive people away. O wait a minute, you must have updated it, I see now you are using the current one. No more stupid picture puzzle...